According to Engadget, Logitech has announced that its Google TV set-top box, the Revue, will be priced at $299 in the U.S. and will ship on September 29th. Dish Network subscribers can purchase a single Revue at a discounted price of $179. My suspicion is that Logitech is going to have a very tough time of it this holiday season.
The Revue was clearly designed to be competitive with the last-generation Apple TV, but the new version, which will be shipping at about the same time, will be priced at $99. Roku's current-generation set-top boxes run from $59.99 to $99.99, although they have new-generation models in the pipeline that may be more expensive. Boxee's Boxee Box by D-Link has a $229.99 list price, but Amazon has it available for pre-order at $199.99.
Looking at the Logitech Revue's price, I don't see how it competes in the current environment. By basing its architecture on Intel, Google automatically made its partners vulnerable to price competition from companies using ARM processors, and that's exactly what's happening. If the price point for a viable add-on set-top box drops to $199 or less (and especially if it drops to $99), I don't see how Google TV set-top boxes will be able to compete without subsidies.
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Thursday, September 16, 2010
Thursday, May 20, 2010
Google TV: Not ready for prime time?
As I write this, the self-congratulatory interviewing of Google's launch partners for Google TV is still going on at the I/O Conference, but the important details of Google TV are now public. First, the details that have leaked over the last month or so are generally true:
My feeling is that this could turn out much like Google Wave: By the time it actually gets released for general consumption and is fully usable, most people will have lost interest.
- Google TV will be based on Android (Version 2.1, not 2.2, even though the first products won't ship until this fall) and Chrome.
- Google has been working with Dish Network for some time, and Google TV will be integrated with Dish's DVRs.
- Google's hardware partners are Intel (providing Atom CPUs and chip sets), Sony (providing Internet-enabled HDTVs and a Google TV-compatible Blu-Ray player) and Logitech (with a forthcoming set-top box).
- The first distribution partner will be Best Buy.
- Amazon and Netflix have agreed to make their sites and content available to Google TV (no big deal, because both companies have policies of making their video content available virtually everywhere).
- It brings the Google search engine to TV, where users can search for content, either from their video service provider (cable, satellite or IPTV) or on the web, using a "Quick Search" bar like Chrome.
- It has its own "home page" that can be used for keeping track of favorite series and applications.
- It supports (and relies heavily upon) Flash Video for displaying web video.
- Google TV-enabled devices will connect to conventional set-top boxes via HDMI and IR Blaster remote controls, which is what allows Google TV devices to display both web and service provider video content.
- If conventional set-top box vendors implement Google's control protocol, Google TV devices can serve as their Interactive Program Guides, request future shows to be recorded on their DVRs, and perform other functions.
- Google TV can create a home page for a television series "on the fly", linking to available episodes from cable, satellite and IPTV providers, as well as on-demand episodes available on the web from various sources.
- Live video can be overlayed on web content in a small picture-in-picture window; this is useful for viewing sports game stats while watching a game in real time, or for doing IMDB lookups while watching a television show or movie.
- Since the key user interface for Google TV is Chrome, users can search for and access music, images and other content along with video.
- Android applications that don't require smartphone functionality will work on Google TV; applications can also be written to take advantage of Google TV's APIs (one application demonstrated could take closed captions and translate them from English to another language for non-English speaking viewers.)
- Google's partners plan to start shipping and selling compatible hardware this Fall in time for the 2010 Christmas season, but the Android Marketplace, Google TV SDKs and Web APIs needed to develop new applications, integrate other devices with Google TVs and take full advantage of the web platform won't be released until early 2011. The entire platform should be available as open source in Summer 2011. In short, that means that the only source for optimized content and applications for at least six months will be Google, Sony, Logitech and a handful of chosen partners who get early access to the platform.
- Google has published a list of recommendations for how web video providers can customize their content for Google TV. Much of it is common sense, but when it comes to formats and codecs, Google recommends Flash Video using H.264 1080i. There's no mention of WebM in the recommendations, and it wasn't mentioned anywhere in the Google TV announcement. It sounds like the Google TV and WebM teams haven't been talking to each other.
- The standard video I/O for Google TV-enabled devices will be HDMI. If your HDTV is an older model without HDMI, or your set-top box uses component video rather than HDMI, you're out of luck.
- Much of Google TV's ability to interact with service providers' set-top boxes depends on those vendors' (and their service provider customers') support of Google's IP control protocol. Today, only Dish Networks/Echostar supports the protocol. Unless Google TV becomes wildly popular, Dish's competitors aren't going to adopt Google's technology.
- Most of the power of Google TV requires a full keyboard for doing searches. In fact, they never even demonstrated an on-screen keyboard. It's anyone's guess as to how eagerly consumers will adopt using a full keyboard rather than a conventional television remote.
- One of the things that was so impressive about the WebM announcement yesterday was the breadth of industry support for the format--hardware, software and services. Google has been unable to get anyone else beyond the hardware partners first rumored months ago to sign onto Google TV. Whether that's due to the cost of Intel's hardware platform, Sony's "my way or the highway" approach to collaboration with partners, or other factors, is still a matter of speculation, but it's been widely reported that both Samsung and Panasonic were approached to join the consortium and refused.
- Google TV will still be subject to the policies of web video providers. Google referenced and showed a number of Fox television shows; they even showed a home page for the series "House" that included icons for getting old episodes from Hulu. Yet, they studiously avoided going to the Hulu website, instead retrieving the episodes from Amazon. Hulu prohibits viewing its content on television sets and goes out of its way to block systems like Google TV that try to do so. It's likely that the cable operators will also block their sites from Google TV.
My feeling is that this could turn out much like Google Wave: By the time it actually gets released for general consumption and is fully usable, most people will have lost interest.
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Monday, March 08, 2010
Will the Dish/TiVo case kill Sling Media?
Last week, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit upheld a previous ruling of contempt of court against Dish Networks in the patent infringement lawsuit brought against it by TiVo. According to this article from Multichannel News, Dish could not only be required to shut down as many as eight million of its DVRs within a month, it may also be prohibited from offering its own DVR in the future. That would mean that Dish would have to license technology from or farm out DVR manufacturing to TiVo or another company whose DVR technology doesn't infringe TiVo's patents.
In late 2007, Echostar, Dish Network's parent, split into two separate companies, with Dish Network providing satellite television services and Echostar maintaining the satellites and building the receivers, DVRs and other equipment. When the split took place, Sling Media was moved into Echostar.
Echostar has been trying to expand its set-top box and DVR customer base beyond Dish Network, but to date the company has had limited success. One of the reasons has undoubtedly been the Dish/TiVo litigation, since anyone using the infringing Echostar DVRs would be subject to the same threat of litigation as Dish. If you're in the set-top box business and you can't offer DVRs, you're stuck in the bargain-basement pricing arena that Chinese manufacturers are dominating.
Sling Media is stuck in the middle. Echostar is no longer focusing on direct-to-consumer sales and instead has retargeted the Sling products for the cable, satellite and IPTV service provider market. If service providers don't want Echostar's set-top boxes, they're unlikely to buy the Sling products either. Given the TV Anywhere initiative and similar services being offered outside North America, the need for Slingboxes and similar devices will inevitably diminish. Sling may be a good idea whose time has come and gone.
In late 2007, Echostar, Dish Network's parent, split into two separate companies, with Dish Network providing satellite television services and Echostar maintaining the satellites and building the receivers, DVRs and other equipment. When the split took place, Sling Media was moved into Echostar.
Echostar has been trying to expand its set-top box and DVR customer base beyond Dish Network, but to date the company has had limited success. One of the reasons has undoubtedly been the Dish/TiVo litigation, since anyone using the infringing Echostar DVRs would be subject to the same threat of litigation as Dish. If you're in the set-top box business and you can't offer DVRs, you're stuck in the bargain-basement pricing arena that Chinese manufacturers are dominating.
Sling Media is stuck in the middle. Echostar is no longer focusing on direct-to-consumer sales and instead has retargeted the Sling products for the cable, satellite and IPTV service provider market. If service providers don't want Echostar's set-top boxes, they're unlikely to buy the Sling products either. Given the TV Anywhere initiative and similar services being offered outside North America, the need for Slingboxes and similar devices will inevitably diminish. Sling may be a good idea whose time has come and gone.
Tuesday, November 11, 2008
Dish Network's TiVo Killer? (Well, maybe a TiVo wounder...)
From Cnet's Crave comes news of Dish Network's new DTVPal DVR, a $250 (after $50 instant rebate) standalone HD PVR with 30 hours of HD or 150 hours of SD storage. The DTVPal works with over-the-air, cable or satellite sources, has a 7-day program guide, and perhaps most importantly, requires no monthly or lifetime subscription fee. The key is the user interface, but Dish has made great progress with its satellite-based PVRs over the years. (The DTVPal DVR also acts as a digital-to-analog converter, but it doesn't qualify for the $40 Federal coupon, which is why Dish is offering a $50 instant rebate.)
The question is whether or not consumers will be willing to pay for a HD PVR if they can get similar functionality from their cable or satellite providers. Probably not, since they'll still have to pay for a set-top box, but the real target for this device is consumers who want to record over-the-air video. For those users, TiVo is the primary option, and an alternative with no subsciption fees will be very tempting.
The question is whether or not consumers will be willing to pay for a HD PVR if they can get similar functionality from their cable or satellite providers. Probably not, since they'll still have to pay for a set-top box, but the real target for this device is consumers who want to record over-the-air video. For those users, TiVo is the primary option, and an alternative with no subsciption fees will be very tempting.
Sunday, September 28, 2008
DirecTV Gets AT&T Contract
The waiting game is over: According to this report from Reuters, DirecTV will replace Dish as the supplier of AT&T's satellite video service, effective January 31, 2009. Existing Dish/AT&T customers will continue to receive service after that date, but my assumption is that they'll deal directly with Dish, rather than AT&T, if they want to make any changes. As you may recall, it was less than a year ago that AT&T decided to drop DirecTV's service in favor of Dish, but at the same time, left the door open to reconsider its decision.
AT&T's decision isn't a surprise, but it nonetheless puts additional pressure on Dish, which has been losing money and subscribers. However, it does free Dish to compete more aggressively against both AT&T's satellite and U-Verse services, which it may have felt constrained to do so long as there was a chance that the company would retain its partnership with AT&T.
AT&T's decision isn't a surprise, but it nonetheless puts additional pressure on Dish, which has been losing money and subscribers. However, it does free Dish to compete more aggressively against both AT&T's satellite and U-Verse services, which it may have felt constrained to do so long as there was a chance that the company would retain its partnership with AT&T.
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